Many people have told me that on Sunday night’s television broadcast of What Does The Bible Say? on WGSR – or as I call it “The Martinsville Taliban Show” – local cult leader Johnny Robertson of the “Martinsville Church of Christ” claimed that there are now four robust congregations of the “Church of Christ” (which is nothing like the mainstream Churches of Christ) meeting in this area. Those would be his own Martinsville group, one at the old post office on The Boulevard in Eden, the one that has been coming together in Reidsville at the Holiday Inn Express, and a group meeting in Ruffin.
Robertson alleged that the Ruffin “Church of Christ” had been meeting for “over a year” (his words).
Curiously, the July 5th 2009 broadcast of What Does The Bible Say? on WGSR was the very first time that Robertson or anyone else with the “Church of Christ” has mentioned a group of their own in Ruffin.
Now some very intriguing information has come to light, the upshot of which a rational person could only possibly take to mean that, once again, Johnny Robertson is telling us a bald-faced lie.
It turns out that there are only three congregations of the “Church of Christ” that are currently meeting in the area… and maybe not even that many!
James Oldfield, previously of the Reidsville congregation, is conducting the services for the cult in Eden. Robertson is still in Martinsville. There has been thus far no evidence that a Ruffin cell of the cult is meeting at all…
…and the Reidsville congregation is now completely defunct! Sources have told this blogger that “This meeting is no longer being held, nor is any meeting of their group being held in Reidsville.” The reason? “This would seem to say that folks in Reidsville are too wise for the tactics of this group, and have rejected participation in this ‘sect’.”
So Reidsville has proven too much for Robertson’s cult. Let us pray that other communities in this area – and wherever else they try to harass – will prove too much for them also.
Meanwhile, other sources have been telling me that the cult’s much-ballyhooed two weeks of “tent service” in Danville and the accompanying thirty hours of television airtime that Robertson purchased on WGSR has been “a bust and a sham”. In spite of what Robertson and Oldfield publicly claimed was a large outreach in the Danville area, very few people showed up during nightly services at the tent (and Robertson himself did “little or none at all” knocking on doors, choosing to order his goons out instead). I can say that The Knight Shift blog is in possession of numerous photographs that attest to the low turnout at the “Church of Christ” tent but as these might well identify the person who took the photos, I have been asked to withhold publishing them here.
I haven’t seen the footage, but several people have told me that during Sunday night’s broadcast Robertson aired a tape of himself accosting the wife of some local minister in the parking lot of the Wal-Mart in Martinsville. Robertson alleged that he “just happened” to see her in the parking lot and coincidentally had his camcorder with him… which the same people have told me that it was pretty obvious that Robertson was stalking the lady (as is his well-documented custom).
Now for the last bit of info for this report…
Folks, I didn’t believe it at first, but plenty of people have been telling me about it and now The Knight Shift can confirm: Johnny Robertson’s “Church of Christ” has been caught digging through the trash cans of people Robertson has decreed to be “enemies” of his cult! They are literally trying to “dig up dirt” that they can use against those they are actively seeking to, as Robertson infamously proclaimed last year, “defeat destroy”.
I’ve read the Bible quite a number of times, but for the life of me I can’t recall any passage that teaches us to go through others’ garbage in order to attack them.
(But then again, Johnny Robertson also claimed recently that he needs a camcorder because he doesn’t have the Holy Spirit… whatever that is supposed to mean.)
The lesser angels of my nature are more than inclined to note that should any member of the cult come to my home and attempt to behave in their typical miscreant fashion, that I will not only shoot him dead, but I will gladly and immediately post full color photographs of his freshly-deceased corpse on this blog. As a warning to the next ten generations that it is the right of each person to seek God as best he or she can understand Him and without fear of harassment.
That’s just the lesser angels of my nature though…
im still a teenager i cant even drive yet but evangelism is going out and converting people and bring them to Christ and God's word but your actions should always be right if you are a christian and i dont think yall know that much about babtism because if you did then you wouldnt be argueing because once you understand it ther is no argument and i can tell by some of the things you asked me like works and what chris asked about scenarios tells me yall dont know it that well and yall havent truly studied as deep as possable and therefor have not studied to show yourself approved i think you thought we believed in babtismal regeneration wich we dont and a couple of other things so dont tell me you know the argument because if you did there should be no argument or you should keep answereing me or bring up something else and i dont see that happpening
yes evangelism is about converting but if the rest of your life is not above reproach then no one will care to listen to your words… as is the case w/JR.
and I ask questions as a means of divulging information from the person I am currently debating, not because I have not previously studied or heard the answer. You see I attempt to not assume that I know what you know before you have been given the opportunity to speak for yourself.
So yes I very clearly understand baPtism and very clearly know what the CofC teaches and I very adamently disagree because you and your teachers have very routinely failed to prove that your point are without a doubt THE anything.
say that last point again i dont quite understand expound on reproach are you saying htere is more than just going out and conveting lost souls yes i know that but would you say that that help convert a lost soul is not hte most important after all the great commision is to go out and preach the gospel to every creature
The word "reproach" means to bring shame or disgrace, to criticize
To live a life above that is something that Paul mentions in Acts 24 when he says that he seeks to have a conscience void of offense toward God and man.
I am not in ANY way insinuating that the great commission is not important. Most certainly we are commanded to GO and make disciples and to do so requires that we engage in conversations and that we seek to meet the needs of those around us in order to begin those conversations. However, conversion does not mean that we must be harsh, rude, invasive and otherwise uninviting into those conversations.
How can anyone lead a single person to Jesus through a conversation when that person is rude and has turned away all those potential converts?
yes i agree and i know you see johny like that and in some aspects i see a little bit of it to but not all the time i think it strtes with the other person then johny starts because he wont back down and he stands his ground but i agree you should present the truth in love
Peter knew it was repentance that brought forgiveness of sins 2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”
There is one baptism that saves the baptism of the Holy Spirit who is the our salvation (Ephesians 1:13-14)
1 Peter 3:20 it was the ark in which they were in that saved them through the water.
And verse 21 says the baptism is not an outer removal of filth, it is an inner removal of filth giving us a good conscience toward God which is done by the baptism of His Holy Spirit through the blood of Jesus, not water baptism.
Revelation 1:5 “And from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood.”
Hebrews 9:14 “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?”
Titus 3:4-5 “But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit.”
Romans 8:7-9 “Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.”
The Bible never ever says God ever stops giving people the indwelling Holy Spirit.
I cannot comprehend Paden or anyone else could defend a man that when he looked at underaged girls dancing in ballerina outfits claims he see panties. The way he exploited those girls I think is the worst thing he has ever done.
I cannot see that such an act could be Godly. He could memorize the Bible's every word and I don't think this would change.
what in the world?
when did that happen anon?
Katie,
It's true. And this is going to get absolutely ugly, but I don't care…
Almost a year ago, Johnny Robertson went on WGSR and announced to Charles Roark that he had caught First Christian Church in Kernersville, North Carolina in an act of child pornography and "violation" of the decency laws.
"They're showing panties!" Robertson claimed.
(Of course Charles Roark, the sellout and if you ask me complete whore that he is, did not even try to challenge what Robertson was saying or ask for any corroborating evidence to back it up… which demonstrated to a lot of people that Roark is lowlife scum and completely irresponsible as a broadcaster.)
The "proof" that Robertson had was some very fuzzy footage that he had pirated from the First Christian website, showing teenage girls doing liturgical dance in the church sanctuary.
These were young ladies who were wearing nothing out of the ordinary that any otherwise sane person would recognize as perfectly decent ballet attire.
And yet, the very filthy-minded and evil Johnny Robertson insisted that these girls were dancing in their "panties".
Katie, I saw the original, high-resolution footage of the dance when I visited First Christian Church. There was nothing indecent at all about what those young ladies were doing.
And for the first time I went from believing that Johnny Robertson was merely a deluded fool, to knowing fully well that he is an absolutely wicked, unrepentant evil man and pardon my French, a COMPLETE BASTARD.
I don't apologize for thinking or saying that. Any man who would do such a thing as Robertson did to First Christian and its innocent youth last year, might get mercy from God but he won't get any shred of mercy from me. A man like that would in a sane world be thrown under the prison.
Make no mistake: Johnny Robertson is a very dangerous man. He is capable of anything.
Such as it is, I personally will have no problem at all shooting Johnny Robertson if he ever shows up on my property.
I'd not only consider it an act of public service, I know darn well that plenty enough folks in this area will stand behind me (including more than a few members of law enforcement who have likewise confided with me that Robertson must be dealt with if he doesn't change his ways).
Johnny Robertson crossed the line last year with his public accusation of child pornography at First Christian.
He hasn't crossed back. Or shown any intention to.
So I'm making the line for him, in no uncertain terms.
Hell, I'd gladly shoot Charles Roark too if he comes onto my property, for his complicity last year but also to keep him from harassing any other innocent property owners or broadcasting footage of deceased loved ones.
These are people who are out of control and a clear menace to public safety.
So far as I'm concerned, the public has more than a clear mandate to protect itself from such individuals, by any means necessary.
whoa that's insane! I had no idea about that incident, I must have been completely ignoring JR at the time or something.
But it doesn't surprise me. One of his recent incidents here in Danville was that his crew visted a church and was videotaping the members children at a kick off rally for the children's ministry. Some of the parents were apparently were worried that his crew and he were pedophiles. And my husband has said that he feels very strongly that if JR or any of his henchmen were to visit our church and be videotaping any of our children, that he would not hesitate to take action either.
I agree.. JR is dangerous. His followers are misguided but I do not view them as a physical threat like I do JR.
Very strange story though, thinks for the info.
chris knight you make me sick saying johny is horrable for disposing child pornography i thought you were a bible theologian would you like to justify that its ok for there to be balarenas dancing in a church building with short skirts no you cant if you knew the bible you would know its wrong for any human to show there skin up that high and i cant beleiev you would result to name calling and say i would shoot johny robertson why dont you grow up johny hsa never thrown even a punch only disposed error and thats makes you so mad you want to punch him and cuss at him dude you get mad at him for going and asking people questions and you would fell threatened if he came on your property well i got news for you any person in there right mind would be more scared of you than johny like johny said in that tape you made wich proves nothing he says most of people would have called the cops on you you didnt aproach him kindly the whole time you just wanted to show him up wich you didnt and he never once acted ugly toward you thats says alot about you not him
to truth
will you please provide me a passage that says holy spirit babtism and by you saying there is makes the bible no good because you contridict itself because the bible says one babtism there for we know of water babtism so ther cant be another and if you think you have the endwelling of the wholy spirit the plz answere these questions
1. why in acts ch 8 did the apostles pass the holy spirit to otheres by laying hands on them and why did this take place after water babtism
2.why cant you heal
3why cant you speak in tongues
4.if you think you can in all of these then why cant you pass it on
to every one who is argueing plz read the whole book of acts and then reply on babtism
Mark 1:7-8 “And he preached, saying, "There comes One after me who is mightier than I, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to stoop down and loose. I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”
John the Baptist said Jesus will baptize us with the Holy Spirit.
Acts 10:43-44 “To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins. While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word.”
God knowing a person’s heart accepts them giving them the Holy Spirit. Cornelius’ household was given the Holy Spirit before they were water baptized.
1 Corinthians 12:29-31 “Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.”
Not everyone who has the Holy Spirit has miraculous gifts.
paden, I have given comments giving plenty of Scripture that shows God gives people the Holy Spirit. You however have not given any Scripture that shows God no longer gives people the indwelling Holy Spirit.
look ithink we need to clear some things up your comment on acts is a result of you not reading in context and understanding and i dont get what your trying to say about corinthians but with mark heres what i say there are not 2 seperate babtisms just one but the babtism does not mean anything until after jesus death on the cross now i believe the holy spirit is our guide through Gods word but we can not possable have him in us because we cant perform miracles or speak in tongues tell me how do get babtized with the holy spirit and whats the point and prove every scripture i gave is even talking about a holy spirit babtism and not water because i know you cant
ah ha ok truth i need you to define your potion on the holy sprit indwelling in hearts of christians now i will afirm it but this aside of some kind of holy sppirit babtism if i understand right acts 2:38 says be babtized and youll recieve the gift of the holy ghost now the question is what does that mean i think you think its outside and apart from the bible as where i believe it is the bible and the holy spirit is our guide there is no such thing as a holy spirit babtism because babtism means to submerse and is only related with water now in the process of water babtism we see our sins are washed away and we are added to the body that is then when we have the holy spirit as our guide through Gods word now what do you think
i will study more into this topic being as i havent that much
John the Baptist said he baptized with water, but that Jesus will baptize with the Holy Spirit.
Romans 8:9 “But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.”
Those who do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit are not His, those who do have the indwelling Holy Spirit belong to God. If you want to ignore this that is on you.
When after Jesus’ resurrection were the disciples baptized with water, please provide the Scripture, being as you say is the event all people are forgiven surely it would be of significance and importance to record the disciples water baptism.
And you never gave the Scripture that says God no longer gives people the indwelling Holy Spirit, please give us the Scripture.
i gave the scripture that showed in order to recieve the holy spirit acts 8 and that the apostles had to give it im not argueing as to wether you have or not have im argueing as to what it means and how you get it and read the book of acts every conversion acount has babtism and what dothe apostles being babtized have anything to do with if it says what babtism is romans 6:3-6 and that your sins are washed away and its calling upon the name of the lord acts 22:16 then it is essential and you cant say its the holy spirit babtism as there is one babtism and thats water babtism now i believe you recive the holy spirit and yes hes in your heart im not ignoring that but you cant prove that the holy spirit works outside the bible now plz tell me how we are babtized with the holy spirit and what purpose it serves you can go to this website to see what i say
http://www.gospelway.com/god/indwelling_spirit.php
plz read this i think it will clear up everything
God gives us the Holy Spirit who seals our salvation (Ephesians 1:13-14).
And the apostles didn't ever give the Holy Spirit, God gave people the Holy Holy Spirit. Peter didn't lay hands on Cornelius' household when God gave them the Holy Spirit. And please give the Scripture where God says the Holy Spirit will later on only be the Bible.
And no you haven't answered either of my other questions yet and I am waiting for an answer, let's see if you can answer questions without asking questions. Here are the questions again.
When after Jesus’ resurrection were the disciples baptized with water, please provide the Scripture, being as you say is the event all people are forgiven surely it would be of significance and importance to record the disciples water baptism.
And you never gave the Scripture that says God no longer gives people the indwelling Holy Spirit, please give us the Scripture.
question 1-answere 1
by disciples i guess you mean apostles and i have no problem with saying no where in the bible are the apostles babtized nor does it talk of there salvation as far as i am aware but whether thay were or werent doesnt matter because they tought babtism and only wrote of jesus or other people or events that took place they didnt write about there previus lives up onto ther esalvation they wrote way after when they would have been babtized and since peter told others to be babtized and repent in acts 2:38 you can conclude they were babtized
question 2-answere2
and you never gave the scripture that says he does. the apostles were the only ones who passed on the holy spirit and so when they died so did they power but we are still instruceted by the holy spirit through Gods word it is our guide
concludng remarks
plz go to website i gave and you will clearly see what im trying to say because i will be honest i havent studied that much about the indwelling of the holy spirit
http://www.gospelway.com/god/indwelling_spirit.php
now i assume that you would agree that too preach jesus would include the plan of salvation if you read acts 8 when it talks about philip and the ethiopian unich it sasy that philip came to the unich who was reading he then explained it to the unich then preached Jesus to him immeaditly after Jesus was preached they came to water and both philip and the unich went down into the water and were babtized we noticed that philip asked if believed because he knew that his babtism wouldnt mean anything if he didnt the unich then confessed Jesus and was babtized and if you noticed they went down into the water both philpi and the unich wich disposes sprinkling and we notice that after his babtism then the unich went on his way rejoicing
plz go to link about indwelling of the holy spirit befor you decide to reply
http://www.gospelway.com/god/indwelling_spirit.php
I didn’t say the apostles weren’t water baptized but asked why their baptism wasn’t recorded since you say that is when all people are forgiven, wouldn’t the apostles very own baptism be significant since they also give us examples to follow.
You make the mistake believing the Holy Spirit is a it when the Holy Spirit is a who, the Holy Spirit is a being. You also ignore that Peter didn’t lay hands on Cornelius’ household when they were given the Holy Spirit before they were baptized with water, the apostles did not give the Holy Spirit to people, God gives the Holy Spirit.
Johnny Robertson is a sick sick sick man.
I do solemnly affirm also that if Mr. Robertson appears at my front door that I will shoot him also.
I am not saying who I am because I want Mr. Robertson to not know which home in Danville he should avoid.
Johnny Robertson is the most evil man to ever come to this area.
He is not a Christian man. He is a servant of Lucifer.
Protect your children and families. Stop Johnny Robertson at your front door.
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I don't care what y'all say about me but please refrain from using the name of our Lord in such a blasphemous manner.
Thank you.
FYI I believe the only times the word "lucifer" is used in the New Testament it is refering to Jesus Christ as the Morning Star. The word is used perhaps once in the Old Testament and refers again to the Morning Star but in this instance to King Nebuchadnezzar. Lucifer also appears twice in the ancient Exultet sung at Easter but again referring to Jesus Christ. Lucifer is a beautiful word in sound and meaning hijacked by myth makers.
chris i complement you in your comment but also i would apreciate it if you didnt cuss as well and truth heres what i say about the holy spirit
the babtism of the holy spirit was something that only happened in the 1st centuray so people would believe and the gospel would be preached the babtism of the holy spirit is no longer around today but water babtism in wich you recieve salvation and wich is the gift of the holy ghost now the only indwelling of the holy spirit is through the bible gods word now in reference to cornelius and his house hold befor i answere this i want you to read acts 10 and 11 in full context and you still afirm your postion i will answere plz take note as to when they recieved the holy spirit and why the recieved the holy spirit and i wish you would refer to this link
http://www.gospelway.com/god/indwelling_spirit.php
every one be sure to tune in to johny tonight if yo cant watch him on tv you can watch him at this link live at 8:30 eastern time
http://www.wgsr47.tv
lets see what he has to say tonight and chris maybe you should watch and make a blog post concerning it afterward or moday i would like to see what you have to say maybe you should make that a weekly routine to report on johnys show and tell of all his lies which you think hes telling
Chris:
Thank you for reporting about Robertson and the Martinsville Church of Christ which as you rightly note is not a real Church of Christ.
I also live in Danville. I have never met Johnny Robertson however his son Micah did knock on the front door of our home during the first week of their "tent revival".
And if I see Micah Robertson again, I will knock the teeth out of his head for what he said to my wife.
Robertson's son is as evil as Robertson himself.
Chris is the most morally upstanding and principled and CHRISTIAN person I know Paden. You aren't worth to shine his shoes. If this world had a lot more like him it would be a lot better place. He's fighting evil people like you and Johnny Rube-erson that only want to hurt everyone else.
Chris is REAL! Chris is HONEST! Chris is SINCERE!. Paden you and Johnny Robertson are FAKE! You are FRAUDS! You are CONMEN!
paden, the church you attend must not pray then since you say the Spirit is no longer active, there is no need to pray for God's help. There's no need to pray for God to help us have better understanding when reading the Bible, there's no need to pray for the sick, there's there no need to pray for those in need, there's no need to pray for missionaries, there's no need to pray for anything according to you, but not according to the Bible.
okay….
what does the Bible say is on folks
And we are all laughing about it over on Facebook!! We need to do a running commentary of this 🙂
yall are sry to say micah and johny are that horrable to want to bring harm to them now truth read ephesians 6:17 the spirit is the sword of god wich is he bible and the holy spirit does nothing with our prayer thats jesus and the only thing the holy spirit does to day is give us the gift of salvation and the only part with us afterward today is through the bible
so you don't pray Paden
you don't feel convicted?
cause if you don't have the Holy Spirit, you haven't got anyone to convict you
I have caught JR point blank telling 3 lies on air tonight.
I watched his program on Wednesday and tonight he is contradicting himself and making up stuff. Interesting…
paden, the church you attend must not pray then since you say the Spirit is no longer active, there is no need to pray for God's help. There's no need to pray for God to help us have better understanding when reading the Bible, there's no need to pray for the sick, there's there no need to pray for those in need, there's no need to pray for missionaries, there's no need to pray for anything according to you, but not according to the Bible.
Paden,
What do you want?
the churc where you attend must folo some man made creed and not the bible yall just base every thing on feeling like oh i feel im saved oh i feel God hears my prayers oh i feel that even though there is no authoritie for instrumental music in worship to God i feel its ok when will yall wake up and relize feelings mean nothing becuase the muslims feel just the same about killing yall and me not praying why dont you use the bible to show me where it says if i dont have the holy spirit in me then i cant pray yall fail to realize what the holy spirit does so if yallare so sure yall have it then yall should be famous because no one else can speak in tongues or perform miracles or have any miraclules gift non human and hey katie if johny contridicted himself spit it out dont say it and leave it at that and chris what is this face book and who here believes john ch3 should be transelated fluid insted of water all of yall should give up because none of yall can answere to 1 peter 3:21 where unto the like figure babtism doth also now save us or romans 6:3-6 where your babtized nto his death to aris to walk into newness of life haveing your sins washed away and chris since i know you say the blood of christ saves us then how do we come into contact with his grace and blood or how are we forgiven and i challenge any of you and i know johny does too to show anyone saved under the new law without babtism and i guess none of you read that link i gave or the book of acts from begining to end
who thinks im over 20 years old and a preacher and my name is shawn paden
Paden,
What do you WANT?
paden, I never said you couldn't pray I said:
paden, the church you attend must not pray then since you say the Spirit is no longer active, there is no need to pray for God's help. There's no need to pray for God to help us have better understanding when reading the Bible, there's no need to pray for the sick, there's there no need to pray for those in need, there's no need to pray for missionaries, there's no need to pray for anything according to you, but not according to the Bible.
heres my question Paden… theres 3parts to the trinity, do you believe that? There's God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
Now God the Father, we cannot see and He has not walked on earth since Genesis when we are told that He walked in the garden with Adam and Eve.
God the Son, also called Jesus, walked the earth in human form (though still 100% God) for 33 years was crucified, dead, buried, rose again, and ascended into Heaven.
So what's left?
the Holy Spirit
without the Holy Spirit, you have no representation of God in our world… without the Holy Spirit your bridge between sin and God is still nothing but a deep chasm
and paden.. sure I'll give examples
On wednesday evenings program a man by the name of Damien called in and briefly mentioned that "some" people might interpret the scripture given for the water to mean amniotic fluid. He did not claim that he believed that and he never indicated he was a member of any church. He debated briefly with JR and then was hung up on. In that time of debate, he asked questions, argued with and eventually was cut off by JR.
Tonight on JR's program he claimed that Damien "the Baptist" believed that the water should be changed to fluid in scripture. So he claimed that the man was Baptist though he never said that about himself. He also claimed that Damien "cussed" and talked about his wife… when Damien never said a single curse word while I was watching. And Damien doesn't know JR or his wife, it was his first time tuning into the program (or so he said).
AND on Wednesday's program when Damien mentioned the possibilty that the water could be referring to "fluid", JR's acted completely shocked like he had never even heard of such a thing and then tonight he claimed that he has heard many Baptists in our area preach this doctrine about fluid…. so how could he be shocked about it one night and then be so familiar with it by Sunday?
So yes… 3 blatant contradictions.
in no way do i agree with any of those contradictions but im not going to discuss them becuse we can discuss better things now answereing you
1.theres 3parts to the trinity, do you believe that? There's God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
answere-yes
Now God the Father, we cannot see and He has not walked on earth since Genesis when we are told that He walked in the garden with Adam and Eve.
God the Son, also called Jesus, walked the earth in human form (though still 100% God) for 33 years was crucified, dead, buried, rose again, and ascended into Heaven.
So what's left?
the Holy Spirit
answere yes
without the Holy Spirit, you have no representation of God in our world… without the Holy Spirit your bridge between sin and God is still nothing but a deep chasm
i dont know where the idea without one on earth makes a difference and im not sure what that proves now my questions
oh and Paden… I think you "sound" as if you are not 15 years old as you so adamently claim but I could care less if you are 5 or 55… I am not a discriminator of age
I enjoy that you cannot prove that my contradictions are wrong and that you avoid the notion completley
JR is a liar… and a manipulator, and those 3 contradictions in tonight's program alone are only a small percentage of what can be proven about those statements.
and as for your response to my questions….
without a representative of the Holy Trinity, how would you be able to receive salvation? Salvation is not man-made my friend. If it were, we would have never needed Christ to come to earth and endure all that He endured.
Y'know something Katie and Truth…
"God" according Johnny Robertson's "Church of Christ" cult is a pretty weak and pathetic deity.
Of course, Robertson and his followers are pretty weak and pathetic anyway.
Been… well okay talking with you paden, all you have proven is that you are just another follower of Johnny Robertson's cult. I will be praying for you.
questions for everyone
1.in 1peter 3:20-31 does it not say that noah and his family were saved through water and the antipye doth also now save usand its the answere of a good conscience through Jesus crucifiction
2. in romans 6:3-6 does it not say what babtism represents and what it does and that you arise to walk in newness of life after being buried with christ and arising to walk ina new life haveing the old man put away
3.does ephesians 5:23 teach that you have to be in the body to be saved
4.are the body and the church the same
5.on the day of pentacost in acts ch2 were there not 3000 that asked what must i do to be saved and told repent and be babtized and you will recieve the gift of the holy ghost
6.at the end of the chapter in acts2 does t not say the Lord added to the church daily as that wich should be saved
7.in romans 10:13 where it says whoever calls upon the name of the lord will be saved ever indicate that as a prayer and ever a sinners prayer wich is not in the bible
8.in acts 22:16 does it not teach babtism washes away sin and that it is calling on the name of the Lord
9.does mark 16:16 not teach babtism as being essential
10.will some one name one example of someone being saved under the new law seperate and before babtism
11.if you answere any of the wuestions please indicate wich one and answere it fully backing evry thing up with the bible and not mer man made opinions and if you believe any to not mean any water present please prove it
thank you and please do not answere if your answere is not biblical